Tom "durrrr" Dwan Makes First World Series of Poker Final Table
Day 2 of the $10,000 World Championship Mixed Event has just finished up for the day, after David Oppenheim was eliminated in ninth place. The remaining eight players will be battling it out for the first place prize of $483k and the coveted World Series of Poker bracelet. All of the remaining eight players are guaranteed at least $54k for making the final table.
One of those remaining eight players is Tom "Durrrr" Dwan. Final chip counts have not yet been released, but it appears as though he will be entering the final table with somewhere north of 600k in chips, which would be good for third place. The tournament chip leader heading into the final table looks to be Matt Glantz, who at last count had a chip stack of over 1.1 million.
As mentioned, this will be Tom Dwan's first trip to a World Series of Poker final table. This is notable because Dwan is easily one of the top poker players in the world, and this is the first WSOP that he has been able to play in (he turned 21 last July). It was just a matter of time before he made his first WSOP final table, and it will likely be just a matter of time before he wins his first bracelet. He has already accumulated over $800k in total lifetime tournament cashes, including a final table appearance at the 2007 World Poker Finals championship event.
There will be a number of well-known players looking to stop Dwan in his drive to claim his first WSOP bracelet. Those names include:
James "mig.com" Mackey - won the $5k No Limit Hold'em event at the WSOP last year. Also has a WCOOP victory under his belt.
Sam Farha - 2003 WSOP runner-up
Eli Elezra - extremely short-stacked heading into the final table, likely won't be a factor
Jeff Madsen - two-time WSOP bracelet winner, but is also sitting on a short stack
Play at the final table will begin at 4 pm on Friday afternoon.
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Few hands from a live tourney yesterday (Edit: Stack sizes and suits may not be exact, but close enough hopefully!). Opinions and criticisms welcome...
#1
Down to 12 or 13 (I forget), average stack about 60k. I'd just been moved from another table where I was the one of the bigger stacks to here where (I think) everyone had me covered. First hand after I sat down...
a. Player 3... I'd played with him once before and from what I had seen he appeared to be a competant/good player. What could we reasonably expect him to show here
b. Player 1 (my) fold - completely ridiculous or should I have been shoving over the top even with Player 2 still to act
William
from: Montezuma Creek, UT Post #9241
Uh I hate it! Tough spot, I think I can find a fold here but I don't like it.
Infact close ur eyes and get it over the top, with stack sizes, Player 2 could have KQ, KJ etc and Player 3 will be shoving flush draws.
Ur basically behind to a set at the moment - I think Player 3 would be reshoving with any pair pre flop (except maybe KK which is unlikely in this circumstances). Its a good chance to make a load of chips here and ur against the blinds.
The fact its taken me 20 mins to write this post and I'm not sure either way shows how sure I am.
Pejmon
from: Middletown, OH Post #8888
1st im making it 16k pre just incase of a small pair behind which im hoping will get folded. i dont think im foldong tbh i think im shoving and squuezing my cheeks for the inevitable set on the river. _________________ IM NOT f*CK*NG SHORT,
Fortunato
from: Marshallberg, NC Post #9694
Wow.
I mean wow.
What exactly do you put player 3 on when he leads out He has 6 bb's left. He could have anything in this spot.
I don't see how you read on player 3 'he is competant' can be correct here. He starts the hand with 10bb, but is calling off a 1/3 of his stack preflop Any competant player I know that has 10bb in the bb, either raises or folds in this position.
Besides that, I can understand the reasoning for laying down TPTK if you are in player 2 position and the action has gone bet, re-raise for example.
How can you possibly justify laying this hand down to a small bet for the BB
I just don't get it to be honest.
Damir
from: East Weymouth, MA Post #5462
Errr wow
I am never folding there...
Rachael
from: Oskaloosa, KS Post #7086
stowjon wrote: 1st im making it 16k pre just incase of a small pair behind which im hoping will get folded. i dont think im foldong tbh i think im shoving and squuezing my cheeks for the inevitable set on the river.
I'd been going 2.5x the whole tourney, as it was my first hand at the new table I guess no-one would have noticed a larger raise though![/b]
Bruno
from: Groton, SD Post #6378
I'd been going 2.5x the whole tourney, as it was my first hand at the new table I guess no-one would have noticed a larger raise though![/b]
Tobyn
from: Elliott, IL Post #9978
i am such a nit
Asma
from: Oakboro, NC Post #5564
Slightly re-arranged...
Poker Jon wrote: How can you possibly justify laying this hand down to a small bet for the BB
I wasn't aware I had tried to justify it (yet!), I was just asking some questions...
Edit: And that 'small' bet was half my stack with a player still to act
Poker Jon wrote: I don't see how you read on player 3 'he is competant' can be correct here. He starts the hand with 10bb, but is calling off a 1/3 of his stack preflop Any competant player I know that has 10bb in the bb, either raises or folds in this position.
My 'read' was just an observation from playing a couple of hours with him at the last LPC deepstack - as mentioned hadn't played a hand with him in this tourney.
Poker Jon wrote: What exactly do you put player 3 on when he leads out He has 6 bb's left. He could have anything in this spot.
Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
Edit2: In terms of what he had, I'm not sure what I thought he had, but at the time I was convinced that I must be behind :S
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
Poker Jon wrote: I just don't get it to be honest.
+1
Do we want results, or should I leave it for a while
Last edited by DCSW7 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:36 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top DCSW7 Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2808 Location: Spewing @ PLO Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Mikhaela
from: Railroad, PA Post #7936
I wasn't aware I had tried to justify it (yet!), I was just asking some questions...
Edit: And that 'small' bet was half my stack with a player still to act
Poker Jon wrote: I don't see how you read on player 3 'he is competant' can be correct here. He starts the hand with 10bb, but is calling off a 1/3 of his stack preflop Any competant player I know that has 10bb in the bb, either raises or folds in this position.
My 'read' was just an observation from playing a couple of hours with him at the last LPC deepstack - as mentioned hadn't played a hand with him in this tourney.
Poker Jon wrote: What exactly do you put player 3 on when he leads out He has 6 bb's left. He could have anything in this spot.
Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
Edit2: In terms of what he had, I'm not sure what I thought he had, but at the time I was convinced that I must be behind :S
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
Poker Jon wrote: I just don't get it to be honest.
+1
Do we want results, or should I leave it for a while
Last edited by DCSW7 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:36 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top DCSW7 Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2808 Location: Spewing @ PLO Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Albertha
from: Rogers, AR Post #5814
My 'read' was just an observation from playing a couple of hours with him at the last LPC deepstack - as mentioned hadn't played a hand with him in this tourney.
Poker Jon wrote: What exactly do you put player 3 on when he leads out He has 6 bb's left. He could have anything in this spot.
Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
Edit2: In terms of what he had, I'm not sure what I thought he had, but at the time I was convinced that I must be behind :S
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
Poker Jon wrote: I just don't get it to be honest.
+1
Do we want results, or should I leave it for a while
Last edited by DCSW7 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:36 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top DCSW7 Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2808 Location: Spewing @ PLO Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Manasi
from: Huntland, TN Post #9266
Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
Edit2: In terms of what he had, I'm not sure what I thought he had, but at the time I was convinced that I must be behind :S
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
Poker Jon wrote: I just don't get it to be honest.
+1
Do we want results, or should I leave it for a while
Last edited by DCSW7 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:36 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top DCSW7 Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2808 Location: Spewing @ PLO Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Alliance
from: Napoleon, IN Post #5606
+1
Do we want results, or should I leave it for a while
Last edited by DCSW7 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:36 pm; edited 2 times in total Back to top DCSW7 Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2808 Location: Spewing @ PLO Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Nellie
from: Seward, NE Post #9739
thegrimble wrote: i am such a nit
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Chasell
from: San Lorenzo, CA Post #7151
Guess that makes two of us!
I've got more hands to follow, but I'm having problems with the replayer - it doesn't like some of my scenarios (eg BB having enough chips to post!) I will make seperate threads though
Quinten
from: Elkmont, AL Post #8618
[quote="DCSW7"]
Poker Jon wrote: What exactly do you put player 3 on when he leads out He has 6 bb's left. He could have anything in this spot.
Quote: Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
My bad - mis read the action.
I still don't think it makes that much of a difference - we have 15 bb's left with 17bb's in the pot when it gets to your decision.
If your not sticking it in here, then I am not sure when you should be sticking it in
Even if you are behind player 3, you can still get your money back through player 2.
If player 2 has a draw, I am making him pay to get there. If he has K5 then he is awful. If he has KK, then he is awful, if he has 22 or 55, he is awful, as all 4 of these hands should be re-raising a mid stack button raise at this stage in the tourney. My question still stands:
What range of hands do you put BOTH players on to make this fold. You have to have them on precisly kk/55 and 22 in order to fold this at this stage, with that stack size, in my opinion.
Jon
Sonte
from: Randolph, OH Post #6908
Quote: Player 3 doesn't lead out - he re-raises all-in with the pre-flop raiser still to act. I had to put him on some kind of made hand already... surely he must be expecting to go to showdown here as the small blind is already priced in even if I fold
If I overshoved, the small blind would then be getting about 4/1 to call me so I would assume he's probably calling if he has any draw or made hand. Especially as he's still got over twice the average stack if he loses
My bad - mis read the action.
I still don't think it makes that much of a difference - we have 15 bb's left with 17bb's in the pot when it gets to your decision.
If your not sticking it in here, then I am not sure when you should be sticking it in
Even if you are behind player 3, you can still get your money back through player 2.
If player 2 has a draw, I am making him pay to get there. If he has K5 then he is awful. If he has KK, then he is awful, if he has 22 or 55, he is awful, as all 4 of these hands should be re-raising a mid stack button raise at this stage in the tourney. My question still stands:
What range of hands do you put BOTH players on to make this fold. You have to have them on precisly kk/55 and 22 in order to fold this at this stage, with that stack size, in my opinion.
Jon
Frederick
from: Marcus, WA Post #8518
My bad - mis read the action.
I still don't think it makes that much of a difference - we have 15 bb's left with 17bb's in the pot when it gets to your decision.
If your not sticking it in here, then I am not sure when you should be sticking it in
Even if you are behind player 3, you can still get your money back through player 2.
If player 2 has a draw, I am making him pay to get there. If he has K5 then he is awful. If he has KK, then he is awful, if he has 22 or 55, he is awful, as all 4 of these hands should be re-raising a mid stack button raise at this stage in the tourney. My question still stands:
What range of hands do you put BOTH players on to make this fold. You have to have them on precisly kk/55 and 22 in order to fold this at this stage, with that stack size, in my opinion.