situation:

10 handed SnG, down to 7 players after 8 hands. So far best ive picked up is 9 10 suited and pocket 3's.

Starting stack 1500
Blinds 20/40
my stack is 1380 after posting sb
On the small blind i pick up 55.

1st to act, min raises followed by two more callers and the bb left to act!

BTW, the guy min raised like every hand previous, when he showed he had AKs etc

Question:

Fold, call or raise? If you raise, by how much?
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Call and hope you hit a 5 to win a big pot?

Why play a huge pot with 55?

Flat call, hit set, profit
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assuming his stack is the same size or bigger than yours then this call with 55. Check fold if you miss, decide on other course of action if you hit set. Raising is crazy and will rarely be a winning play from this position. Fold is too weak given the odds you are getting to call.
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jun_fan_lee wrote: assuming his stack is the same size or bigger than yours then this call with 55. Check fold if you miss, decide on other course of action if you hit set. Raising is crazy and will rarely be a winning play from this position. Fold is too weak given the odds you are getting to call.

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

Poker Jon wrote: jun_fan_lee wrote: assuming his stack is the same size or bigger than yours then this call with 55. Check fold if you miss, decide on other course of action if you hit set. Raising is crazy and will rarely be a winning play from this position. Fold is too weak given the odds you are getting to call.

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo
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Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo
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In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

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tommymac wrote: Question:

Fold, call or raise? If you raise, by how much?

Answer:

Fold

Answer:

Fold

DCSW7 wrote: tommymac wrote: Question:

Fold, call or raise? If you raise, by how much?

Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.
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Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.
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? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.
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jun_fan_lee wrote: DCSW7 wrote: tommymac wrote: Question:

Fold, call or raise? If you raise, by how much?

Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

DCSW7 wrote: jun_fan_lee wrote: DCSW7 wrote: tommymac wrote: Question:

Fold, call or raise? If you raise, by how much?

Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

True, but not so much that your bum squeaks
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Answer:

Fold

? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

True, but not so much that your bum squeaks
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? A little too tight surely? You are getting good implied odds (assuming the villains stack is same as yours or more) to set mine.

Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

True, but not so much that your bum squeaks
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Maybe! But you're supposed to be tight in the first few levels of a SnG no?

True, but not so much that your bum squeaks
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True, but not so much that your bum squeaks
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jun_fan_lee wrote: Poker Jon wrote: jun_fan_lee wrote: assuming his stack is the same size or bigger than yours then this call with 55. Check fold if you miss, decide on other course of action if you hit set. Raising is crazy and will rarely be a winning play from this position. Fold is too weak given the odds you are getting to call.

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Poker Jon wrote: jun_fan_lee wrote: Poker Jon wrote: jun_fan_lee wrote: assuming his stack is the same size or bigger than yours then this call with 55. Check fold if you miss, decide on other course of action if you hit set. Raising is crazy and will rarely be a winning play from this position. Fold is too weak given the odds you are getting to call.

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Also to add, as tight play is the norm, people may also fold stronger hands. The later you are in a SnG the more lilely people are to call, hence why it could be fairly profitable now

Whilst i'm generally agreeing with this line (and probably would take it myself), there is a total of 300 in the pot already (80 x 3 + 20 + 40) which means that a squeeze shove can't be that bad a play in order to add 20-25% to your stack??

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Also to add, as tight play is the norm, people may also fold stronger hands. The later you are in a SnG the more lilely people are to call, hence why it could be fairly profitable now

In the early stages though it's better to play it slow. A squeeze is also tough from oop and if you're called (which one player prob will) you've basically committed yourself on whatever flop. In the later stages with higher blinds this could very easily be a squeeze/ shove. *

*all above is imo

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Also to add, as tight play is the norm, people may also fold stronger hands. The later you are in a SnG the more lilely people are to call, hence why it could be fairly profitable now

Regardless of the stage, a squeeze shove I think is the most profitable play here. Raising anything more than a shove is awful.

If all fold you are picking up 300.
Call>Fold>Raise

Also to add, as tight play is the norm, people may also fold stronger hands. The later you are in a SnG the more lilely people are to call, hence why it could be fairly profitable now

Also to add, as tight play is the norm, people may also fold stronger hands. The later you are in a SnG the more lilely people are to call, hence why it could be fairly profitable now

depends on the level of the STT. At low levels you will get called by so many hands, pairs, AX, KX etc that you'll def be flipping a large% of the time which I don't think is a necessary risk to take in the early stages of the game.

I get your point but don't think I'd take the risk that early on without feeling I'm giving up some of my equity later in the torunament when players will likely play a lot worse than me (me as in a theoretical me, you, whoever is the hero).
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Poker Jon wrote: Personally I like Shove>Call>Fold>Raise

Edit: I changed my mind

Fold > ( Shove = Call = Any other raise )

Edit: I changed my mind

Fold > ( Shove = Call = Any other raise )

you may/maynot be happy to know i folded the hand after long deliberation, it was shove/fold situation but fold won over like jun suggested it was guite low limit so AX was a very likely caller in this situation.
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